One of her friends, and myself, endorsed Streamate. A few other people mentioned whitelabel¹ sites OF Streamate, and one vote was tossed in for OnHerCams.

Then, one of her friends said not to do Streamate because they only pay 20%. I mentioned something along the lines of “Who cares if you only make 20%, if you are making bank per hour still?” I also mentioned that if I recall correctly, you ALSO make 15% for LIFE for any referrals, and that it should help compensate you that % that you might be accustomed to getting on, say, MFC (if anyone but the top out of 800+ models actually made any worthwhile money on there). She then likened it to cyber prostitution. This is where I sighed. I pointed out that I have no issues with prostitution; not only do they set their own hours and wage, they are independent. What’s not to love about that?

I then broke down exactly how that 20% ends up being 20%.

• Cam Girl Cut: 20-35%
• + Affiliate Cut: 15%
• + Credit Card Processing Cut: 12-15% + 5% that you get back 6 months later IF you don’t have a chargeback².

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• Site Cut: 30-45%

That is then further broken down into server costs, chargeback costs (that aren’t covered by the 5% rollover), staff costs etc.

In the end, a cam site with an affiliate program, makes roughly 15%-20%. The owner of the site MIGHT make 3%, if his or her contract is REALLY good haha.

After you break it down, it’s a VERY marginal percent that ends up making it to the people who run the sites 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Answering our most intricate or tedious questions.

This is what I'm doing for most of this convo

She stated that she did in fact make a lot of money on Streamates… >_> SO WHERE IS THE GODDAMN PROBLEM?! I don’t get it. If your choices are 1) Work on a cam site that you make 50% on, but never get any shows or tips, or 2) Work on a cam site that you make 20% (+15% affiliate referral for the life of the user you refer), but average $50-100 per hour, why is there ANY question at all?

Unless the site is a shitty or shady site, FUCKING GO FOR THE ONE THAT MAKES YOU MONEY!

NO! You aren’t a “digital prostitute” as she tried to state, you are a goddamn smart business woman. It’s the difference between choosing a minimum wage job at McDonalds and a waitressing job at a very busy restaurant: You work the same hours, except on the latter, you make 2-3x as much a night. Sure, it might be a little more work, as you are actually doing something instead of standing there, bored out of your goddamn mind, but it’s worth it.

So, after that, I was blocked… and now, when I look at the conversation, it looks as though I’ve been conversing with myself for the past half hour. Cam Girl Logic = Fail sometimes :-/

^{1 A whitelabel is an affiliate tool that many large webcam sites use that allows the affiliate to embed a customizable version of the camsite into their own site. Normally, it is branded with the affiliate’s site name, but it is not, in fact, a cam site itself. The quickest way to determine if it is a camsite or a whitelabel is to visit the 2257 page. On there, it should say something like “c/o WEBCAM SITE NAME” or just list the camsite’s name as the main contact name.}

^{2. Camsites have one of the largest chargeback ratios. Many people will use their wife’s card, use a stolen credit card, or are just plain assholes and charge it back so they don’t have to pay for the services rendered. Many sites will split this with the cam model, as she is caught unaware and gets screwed. Because of this, the 5% holdback reserve is very often run out and then the charges cut into the cost margins of the site. Running a cam site is very high risk and no fucking joke.}

All night, I will be running an raffle for a 1 year membership to MissAthenaHollow as well as a custom 5 minute video of your choice. Each raffle ticket will cost 200 tokens. You can purchase more than one ticket if you would like. At 12:45am, I will randomly choose a winner via a random number generator.

I will also be selling regular memberships which can be purchased with MFC tokens rather than putting your credit card on file with another porn site (I understand many people are wary about this).

• 1 month GeekGirlsOnline memberships = 125 tokens
• 1 month MissAthenaHollow memberships = 200 tokens
• Any 1 video from my site (or clips4sale store) = 100 tokens
• Custom 5 minute video = 400 tokens

Soon after the ball drops in Times Square, I will be doing trivia. The winner will receive their choice of either a 1 week membership to missathenahollow.com or geekgirlsonline.com

Be sure to come hang out, drink and have fun talking about everything from porn to video games!

My name on MyFreeCams is Athena_Hollow

Hope to see you all there!!

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Now, onto other information: Camming!

Some of you may have noticed I added a Cam Schedule to the site (link @ the top in the menu bar). You should bookmark this if you ever hang out while I’m camming. It will be kept up to date with information about when and where I’ll be online. Of course, situations DO arise and I may have to cancel, so if you don’t see me on when I should be on, check to see if the cam schedule page has been changed. If it hasn’t, chances are I’m just running a little late. Give me a little while, and I’ll definitely be on.

Members Shows: I will be doing member cam shows twice a month. These are one hour shows exclusively for the members of MissAthenaHollow.com (unless stated otherwise).  The first half will be hanging out like on the cam sites I work on, the 2nd half will be more fun and naughty.

Unfortuantely, until I get off of streamate and onto my own cam server, it will be limited to solo interactions ONLY. If anyone wants to help me get the software and server needed to get started, just let me know. You can check out the software I want to run as well as the server packages from the links below.

Live Streaming Software script (down towards the bottom)

Premium 0 Developer OR 1 Startup

Those are the minimum required things to get my own cam server running

One final thing: This Friday, mother nature depending, I will be doing a 100% free 1 hour cam show via my site. The odds of me doing many (if any) other absolutely free cam shows are slim to none, so be sure to come by & check out what the fun is all about during my shows & what you’ll be missing during my members only cam shows Again, be sure to keep an eye on my cam schedule because if mother nature rears her ugly red head, I won’t be able to do the show, for obvious reasons.

OH! And this just in! Get your own free sex toy! I am absolutely ecstatic to be able to bring you news of a great program from MyPleasure – Sex Toy Day! What sane person turns down an absolutely free, no strings attached vibrator?! For more information, check out SexToyDay.com and be sure to sign up for your free toy on November 4th!

Onto updates: I just put up a nearly 8 minute video with the new webcam, not HD, but that’s coming soon Here’s some screen grabs as well as a small preview video!

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See all 6000+ Images and nearly 7 hours of video!

I’ve also found a brand spankin new (still in beta!) cam site that I’ve fallen in love with. As with any new love, it still has some things it needs to adapt to, but I think once it is official launch date, this site is going to whoop major ass. To sign up, go to http://www.igirlslive.com & be sure to put in athenahollow under ‘promo code’ to get free tokens to spend on the site!

OH! And I will be starting up hour long member’s only cam shows on MissAthenaHollow.com again next week! YAY sexy, nerdy, cammy, awesomeness. Just be sure to check my blog & twitter to find out exactly when that will be going on!

Another awesome thing that’s happened this week is that I’m getting new sex toys. Fuck yes. No more shoddy, shitty, should wear a condom over toys for me. Oh no, buh bye Doc Johnson. See ya later California Dreams. I’m hanging out with the big boys soon from over at MyPleasure all thanks to the always lovely Garnet Joyce! Ya baby, ya!

Now, here’ s some photos from the quick set I just shot with it. Mind you, there is almost NO lighting, 8MP instead of HD and they still look fantastic!

Join MissAthenaHollow.com today & get access to 6000 photos and 6 & 1/2 hours of video!

Saturday: EroticBPM Cam Show
Featuring models from one of the longest running altporn sites on the net. Come chat with us as we do everything from chatting topless or naked to flat our masturbation or more And for only $10 a month, or less it’s well fucking worth it! Starts at 6pm PST and goes till we all pass the fuck out.

So, there ya have it! Plenty of places to see me live and having cam-time fun stuff!

Of note: I am shooting content tomorrow. Gimme ideas!!!!! And tell the fiance he’s gotta stop worrying about how he looks on cam. I swear, he’s more self-conscious about being naked than most girls I know!

And while you’re at it, check out one of my first sets to ever go live on the net!