Cam Girl Logic = Fail Sometimes

So, one of my fellow models asked via her FB, what a good cam site was to work for. She hasn’t cammed for a while, and was wanting some advice. She stated that she didn’t want to work on MFC anymore (and I can’t say I blame her there at all), and that she was looking to make some extra money.

One of her friends, and myself, endorsed Streamate. A few other people mentioned whitelabel1 sites OF Streamate, and one vote was tossed in for OnHerCams.

Then, one of her friends said not to do Streamate because they only pay 20%. I mentioned something along the lines of “Who cares if you only make 20%, if you are making bank per hour still?” I also mentioned that if I recall correctly, you ALSO make 15% for LIFE for any referrals, and that it should help compensate you that % that you might be accustomed to getting on, say, MFC (if anyone but the top out of 800+ models actually made any worthwhile money on there). She then likened it to cyber prostitution. This is where I sighed. I pointed out that I have no issues with prostitution; not only do they set their own hours and wage, they are independent. What’s not to love about that?

I then broke down exactly how that 20% ends up being 20%.

  • Cam Girl Cut: 20-35%
  • + Affiliate Cut: 15%
  • + Credit Card Processing Cut: 12-15% + 5% that you get back 6 months later IF you don’t have a chargeback2.

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  • Site Cut: 30-45%

That is then further broken down into server costs, chargeback costs (that aren’t covered by the 5% rollover), staff costs etc.

In the end, a cam site with an affiliate program, makes roughly 15%-20%. The owner of the site MIGHT make 3%, if his or her contract is REALLY good haha.

After you break it down, it’s a VERY marginal percent that ends up making it to the people who run the sites 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Answering our most intricate or tedious questions.

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This is what I'm doing for most of this convo

She stated that she did in fact make a lot of money on Streamates… >_> SO WHERE IS THE GODDAMN PROBLEM?! I don’t get it. If your choices are 1) Work on a cam site that you make 50% on, but never get any shows or tips, or 2) Work on a cam site that you make 20% (+15% affiliate referral for the life of the user you refer), but average $50-100 per hour, why is there ANY question at all?

Unless the site is a shitty or shady site, FUCKING GO FOR THE ONE THAT MAKES YOU MONEY!

NO! You aren’t a “digital prostitute” as she tried to state, you are a goddamn smart business woman. It’s the difference between choosing a minimum wage job at McDonalds and a waitressing job at a very busy restaurant: You work the same hours, except on the latter, you make 2-3x as much a night. Sure, it might be a little more work, as you are actually doing something instead of standing there, bored out of your goddamn mind, but it’s worth it.

So, after that, I was blocked… and now, when I look at the conversation, it looks as though I’ve been conversing with myself for the past half hour. Cam Girl Logic = Fail sometimes :-/

 

1 A whitelabel is an affiliate tool that many large webcam sites use that allows the affiliate to embed a customizable version of the camsite into their own site. Normally, it is branded with the affiliate’s site name, but it is not, in fact, a cam site itself. The quickest way to determine if it is a camsite or a whitelabel is to visit the 2257 page. On there, it should say something like “c/o WEBCAM SITE NAME” or just list the camsite’s name as the main contact name.

2. Camsites have one of the largest chargeback ratios. Many people will use their wife’s card, use a stolen credit card, or are just plain assholes and charge it back so they don’t have to pay for the services rendered. Many sites will split this with the cam model, as she is caught unaware and gets screwed. Because of this, the 5% holdback reserve is very often run out and then the charges cut into the cost margins of the site. Running a cam site is very high risk and no fucking joke.

Time for my closeup!

I’ve had various requests for a new up close masturbation video. It’s almost 4 minutes long. It would have been longer, but I was having issues with lighting & the toys I was using (since my pocket rocket had died that day), so I got really warmed up right before this haha.

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Toy Review – Berman Venus G

I got my first toy from Babeland a few weeks ago and unfortunately, mother nature visited me the same week, so I wasn’t able to really give this toy a fair shake. Now that I can, I can easily say that the Berman Venus G looks like it could be a pretty awesome G-Spot vibrator. It’s too bad that I was a little let down. I was expecting this really stimulating toy, but it just wasn’t anywhere NEAR strong enough for me.

bermanvenusg Toy Review   Berman Venus GI will say, however, that for beginners (or those that really aren’t into super strong vibrations) this toy would be a fantastic pick! It’s a very lightweight toy, it takes AAAs and is, of course, made of very safe materials. The ribbed shaft really helps with the stimulation at the vaginal entrance and its girth is on the lesser side, making it ideal for those who have problems with medium or larger toys. Unfortunately, it just isn’t enough to make this toy one that I would use on a regular basis.

From what I could figure out, by playing with it (not inside me) is that for some reason, the vibration mechanism is rather far down on the shaft. Also, it doesn’t conduct the vibrations very well to the tip of the toy at all. I want a helluva kick from my g-spot toys. The Berman Venus G just didn’t deliver this for me.

There were a few things that irked me, and probably would others as well. One was that in order to put the battery cap back on, it had to be put on in a VERY specific way. It’s really difficult to notice the first few times, and you just end up frustrated, thinking you had broken it the second you put your batteries in it. Another was that without a strong vibrating tip, it was nearly impossible for me to figure out if I had the silly thing pointed in the right direction. A nubbin on the end of the battery cap, or something, would have saved me a lot of hassle of having to pull it back out, straighten it, and put it back in.

So, let’s recap:

Pros:

  • Varying speed based on the amount you turn the dial on the end of the battery cap
  • Made of easy to clean silicone
  • Latex free / Phthalates free / Hypo-allergenic
  • Slender shaft is great for beginners

Cons:

  • Not a very strong vibrating mechanism
  • Hard to tell if it’s pointed the right direction
  • The battery cap is a total pain in the ass to get right the first time

Overall, I would definitely recommend the Berman Venus G to all of my friends that are into more slender toys, or just want a little vibration in their lives. Unfortunately, for those of us who like some kickback from our g-spot vibes, it just doesn’t make the cut. Luckily, the toy is only $24, so even if you purchase it and it’s not quite up to what you want, it’s not like it’s going to break the bank.

 

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My very first video

Thanks to a very loyal fan, I have a copy of the very first video I ever did. It was for a sex toy site called HowToysWork.com. The owner was a friend of mine, and he closed up shop many years ago at this point. So, here ya go! The video that spawned the shaping of my entire life ^_^

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Video Sale!

Currently offering many many many of my already made videos for 100 tokens (paid through MFC). Some of these videos, that’s a helluva deal, especially if you buy tokens in bulk! (and since I only get 50%, it’s way less than I would normally get for selling these videos.)

This deal is good until July 15th, so be sure to check it out on my “Buy My Videos” page (also linked in the menu) for previews, special pricing and information on how to purchase the videos.

Days of the Dead

I’m heading to a new horror convention that’s being held the 2nd-4th of July.

Unfortunately, I’m broke as hell from being an adult (ya know, paying bills, supporting a kid, etc) so I’m trying to come up with extra cash for the show. I have admission covered, but I’d like to be able to buy stuff like autographs (I want Ed Furlong to sign me dammit!) as well as food, gas and the like.

SO! This is good for you ^_^ I am offering lifetime memberships for both GeekGirlsOnline and MissAthenaHollow as well as 1 year memberships for MissAthenaHollow.

I am also offering custom videos at a discount. My normal prices are seen here, but until the 28th, I’m offering custom videos & photos for 20% off!

Adjusted video prices are:

Solo masturbation or shower – 15 minutes for $30 $24; 30 minutes for $60 $48

Blowjob; Handjob; Footjob; Full sex video (vaginal penetration only) – 15 minutes for $40 $32; 30 minutes for $75 $60

Adjusted photo set prices are:

1 outfit  – $35 $28 for 50 photos; $60 $48 for 100

2+ outfits; fetish (foot, smoking, balloon, underwater – if other, please email me – NO scat, watersports, animals, etc) $45 $36 for 50 photos; $70 $56 for 100

Lifetime Memberships:

GeekGirlsOnline – $200

MissAthenaHollow – $250

1 year memberships for MissAthenaHollow are available for $125

If you are interested, please, let me know! I will also be on MFC camming most nights until the end of the month, so if you want a live cam show, be sure to stop in and check my cam schedule to see when I’ll be on ^_^ (Or follow me on twitter @athenahollow)

OH! And of course, always offering banner & logo work, as well as website design!

If you want information about Days of the Dead, be sure to check out the website! You can meet me, as well as a shit ton of fabu celebs, other horror fans and just all around macabre goodies (such as the FIRST showing of the “Nightmare on Elm Street Museum” *swoon*)

Back to WoW

Loz & I are playing again. I should be on for sure the next few months at least & as long as we aren’t drowned in bills, he should be on as well.

We have been building up the GamingArmy guild and between noon and 1am, we normally have on at least 10-15 people at all times. Peak hours it can get up to 30 or so. All level ranges, and we’re more than happy to help run dungeons and the like. Lately, we’ve been running lots of heroic dungeons & getting as many guild achievements as we can.

Server: Eldre’Thalas
Horde
My main: Savarisin
Loz’s main: Amorian
Loz’s Battle.net email addy: devilduckie@gmail.com

If you wanna join in, feel free to send one of us a message cheesy Back to WoW

Sex toys are AWESOME

As many of you know, I am emphatically pro-sex toys. I like using them when I’m alone, when I’m with my “if we lived in any other state we’d be married because of common law” fiance, hell, I like fiddling with them in my hands when I have nothing else to do with my hands. Sex toys are just freaking awesome.

That being said, I was recently informed of a kick ass, super ethical company called Babeland. I checked out their site and they seem to be EXACTLY what I look for in a company that sells things that are designed to go inside of the money making portion of my career ^_^ From what I have seen, they carry only safe toys that aren’t made of shitty materials like jelly or have phthalates in them. That is a HUGE bonus in my book, because I used to be that girl that would use any ol’ toy because she thought the industry was looking out for her best interest (oh god, how wrong I was).

Here’s a company that actually cares about the welfare and well-being of their clientele. Amazing. So much so, they don’t even offer jelly toys at all and completely removed all toys that have phthalates. They also have a page on their site that describes all of the common materials used for making sex toys, such as Silicone, TPE/Elastomer & Hard Materials such as glass, metal, hard plastic, etc. Now, they not only care about their customers that are buying the toys, they actually want to educate them on what’s safe, not safe, how to clean their toys, etc. That is just awesome in my mind. I have lots of models, friends and fans who message me asking about toys (what I like, why, etc) and now, I can direct their questions to the easy answer page on Babeland when I start telling them about toys that aren’t safe at all. icon biggrin Sex toys are AWESOME YAY!

OH and not only does Babeland have an awesome selection on their website, they also have 4 brick & mortar businesses as well: 1 in Seattle & 3 in NY (Brooklyn, Lower East Side & Soho). You can actually go talk to them if you want, and get more information than you could probably ingest in a week icon biggrin Sex toys are AWESOME

So, that’s my <3 for Babeland at the moment. I’m a happy ‘thena.

Who knew 1 hour would take so long?!

So, last week I announced that I was going to be filming a 1 hour video. I figured, SURE! This should be easy as pie! Yea, how wrong I was will never be disputed XD That’s ok though. I’ve definitely learned from this choice and will probably never do a 1 hour video again, unless it’s a movie that has a script or someone else is directing LOL. So far, we’ve finished over half of it in the span of 2 days of actual shooting (would have more done but demon spawn has been unrelenting w/ her shitty sleep habits) .

What we have so far:

  • Strip tease dance (holy shit! never thought I’d do this one)
  • Me masturbating with my ergonomic rabbit
  • Blowjob
  • Doggy style
  • Cowgirl
  • Missionary w/ my legs up
  • Finishing w/ a cream pie then a shower masturbation scene

Tonight, we’re going to finish filming a couple more angles of us fucking, and possibly toss in an anal scene w/ one of my plugs.

Anywho, preorders are still available  until tonight for $15, but after that it will be $20. Here’s a snapshot sheet of what we have done so far! icon biggrin Who knew 1 hour would take so long?!

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Just so it’s known (as it’s been asked a few times) this video WILL NOT appear on my pay site. This is a separate purchase deal. If you are interested, send me an email at athena@missathenahollow.com ^_^

Presenting my first sex toy review/Site update combo!

So, about a week and a half ago, maybe 2 weeks, I was emailed by a representative from EdenFantasys about reviewing sex toys. They offered free toys in exchange for reviews and a few links. Of course, there was no freaking way I could pass this up so I said emphatically “YES!” That’s how I got this nifty little toy from Evolved, called Seduction. We all know I’m happy with pretty much any of the vibrators you can throw my way, so I was very glad to add it to my collection, but this one was different. I don’t know if it’s the shape or the vibration frequency or what, but holy fucking shit it was awesome. I was close to cumming less than a minute after I put it in me, but once I added my pocket rocket, I had to relearn how to breathe to keep myself going a bit longer.

Well here, you can take a look for yourself at part of the video I just put up on MissAthenaHollow.com

Yep. That sound you hear is a quick snippet of the Portal Soundtrack playing thru my xbox  ^_^

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Now a quick breakdown of the pros and cons of the Seduction from Evolved:

Pros:

  • 3 variable speeds controlled by a rather sensitive push button
  • Waterproof
  • Great shape – hits all the right spots
  • Latex free / Phthalates free / Hypo-allergenic
  • Made of Hard Plastic so it’s easy to clean
  • The box it came in was the coolest fucking box I’ve ever seen in my life

Cons:

  • Remember to either loosen the cap or to remove the batteries alltogether before storing it, because it has a tendency to just kick on randomly and not go off until it’s dead
  • Kind of loud if you aren’t using it inside of you

Overall, I would happily recommend this toy to all those who are both new and vets to sex toys. It’s feels fantastic and cleans up easy! Even if you just want the snazzy snap-lid metal box, it’s so worth the money for that alone ^_^

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Isn't that thing fucking awesome?!

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